Ranked #6 In The World?

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So a breeder announced her sire is ranked #6 in the world, puppies go to $5500 while next litter is $4500. Is this a red flag at all?
 
It’s a pretty significant jump of over 20%, and it would make me pause. A sire’s ranking alone isn’t enough to justify that kind of price increase by itself, not to me at least.

I’ve seen show-line breeders bump prices mainly for “marketing” reasons before, like when a dog earned publicity or exposure.
 
It’s a pretty significant jump of over 20%, and it would make me pause. A sire’s ranking alone isn’t enough to justify that kind of price increase by itself, not to me at least.

I’ve seen show-line breeders bump prices mainly for “marketing” reasons before, like when a dog earned publicity or exposure.
Right ranking alone, but health, temperament, etc.
 
Right ranking alone, but health, temperament, etc.
It's hard to say, I haven't seen what tests the breeder has done or met the dogs. My comment was in regard to raising the price of the litter because of the sire's placing. I am not sure what the average price in your area is, but here I see pups going for around $3500-$4000 CAD. Just for reference, I spoke to a breeder last year who had beautiful West German Showlines that won the German Sieger, and he charged the same amount for all litters.

Do you plan on showing your dog when the time comes?
 
It's hard to say, I haven't seen what tests the breeder has done or met the dogs. My comment was in regard to raising the price of the litter because of the sire's placing. I am not sure what the average price in your area is, but here I see pups going for around $3500-$4000 CAD. Just for reference, I spoke to a breeder last year who had beautiful West German Showlines that won the German Sieger, and he charged the same amount for all litters.

Do you plan on showing your dog when the time comes?
No, simply a true companion dog. Though when I asked for references, all she did was link Google and her testimonial page. Which wasn't what I meant. She wants a conversation about my needs. Which is the higher priority references or needs?
 
No, simply a true companion dog. Though when I asked for references, all she did was link Google and her testimonial page. Which wasn't what I meant. She wants a conversation about my needs. Which is the higher priority references or needs?
I've never asked for references before, I've just looked at reviews + asked the breeder questions. The breeder asking you about your needs is a good thing; they can decide if a puppy from the pairing is right for you, or how to choose the right pup in the litter, etc. That question is all about how the breeder can best match you with a pup.

It's not really about what has higher priority; it's about what makes you feel comfortable. If I were you, I'd visit a few different breeders, meet their dogs, ask questions in person, and see how things feel, then go from there.
 
I've never asked for references before, I've just looked at reviews + asked the breeder questions. The breeder asking you about your needs is a good thing; they can decide if a puppy from the pairing is right for you, or how to choose the right pup in the litter, etc. That question is all about how the breeder can best match you with a pup.

It's not really about what has higher priority; it's about what makes you feel comfortable. If I were you, I'd visit a few different breeders, meet their dogs, ask questions in person, and see how things feel, then go from there.
Right but a serious puppy buyer would ask for references. If the breeder refuses, that would be a red flag, "stating inappropriate. to give out client's information." The breeder got nothing to hide, if every information she says is the actual case not opposite. Of course she ask permission first, I have no intention crossing boundaries.
 
Right but a serious puppy buyer would ask for references. If the breeder refuses, that would be a red flag, "stating inappropriate. to give out client's information." The breeder got nothing to hide, if every information she says is the actual case not opposite. Of course she ask permission first, I have no intention crossing boundaries.
It is inappropriate to give out client information. I would be so mad if my breeder gave my phone number to some random person as a reference.

Also, a breeder probably is not going to call up people they have sold puppies to to ask them to do this kind of thing.

It is a weird ask imo
 
My first question would ranked by whom and what does the ranking entail? There's a lot of ways to rank GSDs. If it's me, I couldn't give a crap about the ranking. I'd be more focused on the pedigrees of the sire and dam, what tites they have, and what health tests have been done. That will tell you far more than a point in time ranking. Any breeder that doesn't discuss your needs is one I would avoid. A good breeder will discuss what you need in a dog in an effort get you the most suitable puppy. Most breeders are not going to provide you with a list of references because we the clients don't want randos contacting us.
 
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